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Poster: cousinkix1953 Date: Nov 1, 2006 10:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: rhino release

Both the 1971 and 72 New Years shows without the KSAN DJs talking over the music would be better choices. The Neville/Dead encores from 87 aren't included on the GDM release either.

"It was Phil, I believe, who once said that part of the thing with Jerry and drugs is that he just didn't like to be told what was good for him and what wasn't... and fairly enjoyed giving the finger to the rest of the world when it came to things that he wanted to put into his own body."

I heard that Jerry once tried to beat the hell out of John Perry Barlow while he was wasted on junk.

Brent was on the road for 11 years solid. His wife had two daughters and got tired of the constant tours. She split and Brent went from drinking a little booze to using hard drugs. Killed himself with goof balls if I remember right.

Anyone who sees that 89 Summer solstice video can watch Mydland leave Shoreline early. The crew has to chase him down in the parking lot between the second set and the encore...

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Poster: AshesRising Date: Nov 1, 2006 11:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: rhino release

Actually, Jerry didn't "kick the shit out of Barlow." Upon hearing Barlow's plea, Jerry said nothin', got up from the couch, walked down a corridor to his room, hung a sign on his door that read "Do Not Disturb" and shut the door behind him. I am out of town at the moment otherwise I'd get the source of that quote for you.
My Love for Jerry continues to think about what he carried around inside that Heart of his combined with a superior intellect and serving the Muse.....full of Grace. --- AshesRising

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Nov 2, 2006 8:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: rhino release

Whatever we say, and however we say, it's not in spite or in hate. The fact that we had a great deal of love for Jerry that continues to this day overrides most any criticism of his lifestyle, onstage or off. For whatever reason, Heroin played a role in the shortened life of Garcia, Brent, Keith and John Kahn.

There's no denying that life around the band was like living in a drug soup, which made it all the more difficult for any kind of meaningful intervention, without having the hypocritical finger pointed. There's also no denying that the quality of the music, at minimum, was altered when the drug of choice changed. It's been well documented in writing, but the best examples of how it changed the music is right here for the listening. Or, if you like, you can go to youtube and see the visual representation of the Grateful Dead by comparing 1977 to 1994 and the pitiful sight of Garcia standing dead still and fumbling to achieve what once came so naturally. (Hornsby's view on this is both neutral, from a relative outsider's standpoint and quite sad, as told in the Goodrich book.)

Obviously, it can't all be blamed on heroin use alone, but the fact of the matter is that Garcia cared very little for the vehicle we call a body. Thirty years of wear and tear from the road and a lifestyle free from healthy maintenance were certainly more than enough to effect the performance of any person, musician or not.

For me, and in genaral terms, the arrival of heroin on the scene marks the decline in the quality of the music that the band was capable of producing. Evrything that lead up to the Spring of 1977 began a long process of erosion starting that fall. At first, not significantly noticable, but by 81 and 82 the consistancy had taken a hit. All you need to do is listen.

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Poster: tree-ap Date: Nov 2, 2006 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: rhino release

I can--MOST unfortunately--synpathize & empathize with Jerry & Brent's drug use. Being an active junkie affects just about EVERYTHING in your life. For them, being dope sick would've affected their performances pretty terribly. When you're dope sick, every minute feels like an hour, every hour feels like a day, and every day feels like a week. Getting "well" is ALL you think about. If I was sick & knew I had "medicine" in my dressing room, tour bus, or back in my hotel room, then leaving stage to fix-up IS justified in your mind. We all have our demons/vices though, whether it's smack, crack, crank, coke, twinkies, TV, or GOD. Jerry & Brent ARE sorely missed by us all, so is it really important to speculate--which is what we're all doing here--what drugs ANY of the band were on while performing? Wasted typing as far as I'm concerned. Besides, I THINK this was supposed to be about RHINO's 1st "new" release???
Can I get an AMEN on NO MORE FUCKING COMPILATIONS!!! I DO NOT WANT highlights of shows, or specific tours, or specific years. Take ONE show, or a run at a specific venue & RELEASE ALL THAT IS AVAILABLE for that show or run. I realize that not every show has surviving tapes, that maybe only one set is available, or that there are songs missing from the reels---whatever. If 12/31/76 is released & a song that was performed IS NOT on the CD's, then it needs to be listed in the notes as to WHY it is not included. Also, if there are songs included as filler or "bonus" songs, then these songs need to be THE ONLY surviving material from whatever show they are from, and this ALSO needs to be included in the notes. The notes shown for "The Houseboat Tapes" DP is a perfect example. Anyway, I guess it's great that they are finally getting around to the releases. It has been more than a year since the last DP, and at least 8 months since the last download.
Personally, I want box sets from Winterland runs from '71 - '74--2/22-23-24/74 , or Dec '72 for example. Remember this, it's ALL in how the music makes YOU "feel"...